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 Sabnack Posts: 1202   | News: I am happy to announce the launch of this topic as a viewable document with Google Documents! This copy features a working table of contents as well. If you would like to check it out it can be found here: Information on Kruxena Rogue Skills Document This topic is all about the Kruxena Rogue Skill tree. Here you will find listed all the Rogue skills in the order they can be acquired. Findings and opinions about Rogue skills are added to the list as they are formulated. Also as it surfaces, limited information on the Assassin and Shadow Runner Skill trees will be given sections toward the bottom as well, courtesy of those dedicated enough to be testing the advanced classes already. If you are looking for information on how skills become stronger as more points are invested in them, the following link is to an official fan based wiki that is compiling such information: Rogue Skill List If you are looking for information on DNA for Rogue skills, the following link to the official fan based wiki shows the effects of DNA by level: Rogue DNA List If you are interested in the level and skill mastery requirements for each level of each skill, you can find this information following this link to the Requiem official fan based wiki: Rogue Skill Prerequisites Rogue Skills  Fata Morgana Minimum Requirements: Level 10 Evaluations: Got 1 point and have used the skill maybe 2 or 3 times. Says it reduces a monster's hostility towards you. Soloing, this is pretty useless, but in party situations this might become a worthwhile skill if you were willing to invest in it. I only still have it because I feel that unlike Sword Aura of Darkness there may be a time I want to use this skill, and you have to get two of the three starting skills no matter what.  Sword Aura of Darkness Minimum Requirements: Level 10 Evaluations: Basic damaging skill. Low MP cost and quick cooldown make it a good skill for starters, but ultimately the damage it adds becomes negligible when your regular attack does over 100. Around level 30 I stopped using it altogether and later removed it with a skill reset. All other Rogues I make will probably never get this skill.  Fighting Will Minimum Requirements: Level 10 Evaluations: Handy buff, incredible duration and raises your accuracy. When you start fighting nothing but elite monsters in the second world area you start to feel the misses, so I raised this skill to max level. Definitely can feel the difference.  Quick Attack Minimum Requirements: Level 12, Skill Mastery 2 Evaluations: Short duration and raises attack speed. Each additional level increases your attack speed by 0.1 for a total of 0.5 at maximum skill level. I've maxed the skill out and can say it's been worth the investment. At each added level you can literally feel the speed increase in Dual Swords. Doesn't hurt that it speeds up the overly slow Crossbow either.  Poison of Malice Minimum Requirements: Level 12, Skill Mastery 2 Evaluations: Slightly stronger than Sword Aura of Darkness, however with additional skill points this quickly becomes a higher damaging skill. The DOT is pretty lacking, only does single digit numbers even at higher levels which eventually becomes absolutely laughable even added up for the whole 10 second duration. Its delay and MP cost are slightly larger than SAoD as well. The raw added damage and DNA for this skill are working properly.  Shadow Runner Minimum Requirements: Level 14, Skill Mastery 4 Evaluations: Dumped one point here first time around, useful for sneaking past monsters I didn't want to deal with at lower level quests. 10 minute cooldown time is ridiculous. Haven't gotten it when I did any skill resets and I do not plan to get this skill in full release as Stealth is just superior and once you have Stealth, you'll never use Shadow Runner again.  Instant Accel Minimum Requirements: Level 14, Skill Mastery 4 Evaluations: Buff that raises evasion. Since evasion is the supposed core survival stat for Rogues this is a skill to pump up. I've tried to test having it on and off and I can say for sure it makes a difference. Another skill I maxed out.  Reward for Pain Minimum Requirements: Level 16, Skill Mastery 6 Evaluations: An attack skill that does a very small damage to you in return for a large damage to your enemy. I got this skill when I skill reset, and I must say I liked it. At higher levels the damage it does back to you is negligible, and the damage the skill does to the enemy only gets more and more powerful. The only drawback I see with this skill is the longer cooldown compared to Poison of Malice, the other low level skill that gets powerful attack damage.  Vertigo Minimum Requirements: Level 16, Skill Mastery 6 Evaluations: Reduce an enemy's evasion. Would be more useful perhaps if it was instant cast, but it isn't. Since Rogues basically need to kill fast or be killed I didn't really bother to use it while I had it. Maybe somewhere down the road it'll have a use, but for now it was just a waste to me, so when I skill reset I did not get it again nor do I plan to get it anytime with future Rogues.  Forward Dash Minimum Requirements: Level 18, Skill Mastery 8 Evaluations: Quickly moves you forward. Excellent for PvP, seems fairly useful for PvE as an turn and run tactic, though the cooldown is a little long on it, around 20 seconds. The one point I have in it seems sufficient, though I must confess my curiosity at how much more useful it is at higher skill levels.  Dual Wield Mastery Minimum Requirements: Level 18, Skill Mastery 8 Evaluations: Passive skill that increases your dual sword / claw damage by a small amount. It may seem at first that the bonus is small, but the bonuses get bigger each level for a total of over +20 at level 5. Coupled with its DNA it becomes fairly good asnd worth investing in.  Lightning Speed Minimum Requirements: Level 18, Skill Mastery 8 Evaluations: Attack skill that hits an area of enemies in front of you. Since usually when I'm under attack by multiple enemies its a very bad situation and one I try to avoid, I skipped this skill. WNxFireWraith writes... Lightning speed DOES do decent damage, I've heard people say it's a low damaging skill, but it really isn't. The downsides are the long cool down and the MP use. But it's not a bad skill (still, Rogues don't aoe so I don't grab it).  Excessive Bleeding Minimum Requirements: Level 20, Skill Mastery 10 Evaluations: Attack skill you get at level 20 that does as much damage as SAoD (yes, the first skill) with the exact same weak damage DOT as Poison of Malice (yes, another very early skill) that has a much larger cooldown. The DNA doubles the length of the DOT, and putting more points in the skill increases DOT marginally. Still, the decided lack of damage from this skill makes it not really worth it. Maybe if the amp up the DOT I'll consider getting it again, but until then I'm passing on getting this skill.  Joint Strike Minimum Requirements: Level 20, Skill Mastery 10 Evaluations: Attack skill that lowers enemy's movement speed. It doesn't add 9 damage, it does 9 damage. And the -1.0 meter/second movement decrease is pretty laughable for PvE, but for PvP it is a godsend. Maybe at max level the speed decrease might be worth it for PvE, but so far it looks like the only real application for this skill is PvP based. Not sure if this skill will become dwarfed by Blinding Strike later on or not, so I may or may not get this skill in full release.  Concentration Needs feedback Minimum Requirements: Level 20, Skill Mastery 10 Evaluations: Buff that very very slightly increases your MP regen rate. Seemed like a pretty big waste, didn't get it. If anyone has gotten it and has something to add about it let me know.  Poison Arrow Minimum Requirements: Level 22, Skill Mastery 12 Evaluations: Woohoo finally a crossbow skill! Wait what's that? It also has the same DOT as Poison of Malice? Well, thats unfortunate... but hey a crossbow skill! Wait, you cannot stack Poison Arrow and Poison of Malice? Aw man... but hey, a crossbow skill! ...what's that...? If I use this skill, using Poison of Malice afterwards will always do zero damage instead of my usual damage + more!? And to top it all off the range of the skill is about a third of the range you can normally fire your crossbow. Yeah, they better do something about this because it's pathetic. Upon using a skill reset this was one of the easiest skills to not get again. Have to keep our fingers crossed the next bow skills aren't as worthless as this one was.  Soccer Kick Needs feedback Minimum Requirements: Level 22, Skill Mastery 12 Evaluations: Skill that has a chance to remove recovery buffs from the enemy it hits. This is clearly a skill intended for PvP. Even so the fact that it literally seems to only remove healing buffs and not buffs such as Quick Attack makes me feel it isn't particularly worth the investment. As such, I have yet to get it. Anyone that has and can give some first hand experience please post what you've found.  Infection Minimum Requirements: Level 24, Skill Mastery 14 Evaluations: AoE poison skill that hits target multiple times and poisons things nearby. It correctly adds the damage modifier it says to your regular damage, it is just divided up into the 4(5? hard to count them) hits the skill does. However, it still maintains the problems of not working in conjunction with other poison skills, and causing a follow-up Poison of Malice to do zero damage, which can make multiple Rogue parties ugly. Another AoE skill, another AoE I don't intend to get.  Paralyzed Nerves Needs feedback Minimum Requirements: Level 24, Skill Mastery 14 Evaluations: Skill that reduces the attack speed of the enemy. I'm curious about the usefulness of this skill, but just haven't tested it yet. Anyone that has and would like to provide some feedback please post.  Home Thrust Minimum Requirements: Level 26, Skill Mastery 16 Evaluations: Get this skill. It's a dream come true. It does appropriate damage (three strikes that add up to your damage + promised modifier), reasonable cooldown, and stuns enemies. The damage and stun duration all go up with extra points. I am told that the stun length maxes at 3 seconds, haven't gotten that far myself as of yet though. It works, it's useful, I love it. Malice writes... 100% chance stun doesnt always do 100% to anything higher than me(i have both at 100% now). those mobs same lvl or lower so far ive not missed any stuns Dazzler Needs feedback Minimum Requirements: Level 26, Skill Mastery 16 Evaluations: Skill that reduces the accuracy of ranged enemies. Didn't feel the need to grab this skill nor see an easy way to test it's effectiveness. Anyone that has messed around with it some, feel free to fill us in.  Ambush Minimum Requirements: Level 30, Skill Mastery 20 Evaluations: Skill that does stun and damage that is used from Stealth. Skill claims it can also be used if you are behind the opponent and not in stealth, but this apparently is a lie as I am unable to do it. The stun is 2 seconds at level one and is +1 second per level, ending in a stun duration of 6 seconds, twice that of Home Thrust. However, I still prefer Home Thrust as I can use it any time. Malice writes... Lvl 6 ambush, it does a lil more dmg and this goes up alot if u intend to invest points in maxing it to 10. No change in stun time and cooldown.. accuracy stays at 100% towards anything ur level and below. With lvl 6 ambush u will finally get to here the "miss" sound effect if u try to homethrust over an ambush. So its the same here as lvl 5 except u get more dmg in ambush... i hope they could reconsider in letting homethrust overwrites Ambush since homethrust is an anytime style.... we just have to carefully time our stuns(stunlock) or let ur opponent a few hits in before restunning(risky - see insta fear). 100% chance stun doesnt always do 100% to anything higher than me(i have both at 100% now). those mobs same lvl or lower so far ive not missed any stuns  Stealth Minimum Requirements: Level 30, Skill Mastery 20 Evaluations: Like Shadow Runner, but better. Costs no MP, instant cast, toggle on/off. You move slower than Shadow Runner, but this skill is still hands down a replacement for Shadow Runner.  Long Range Weapon Mastery Needs feedback Minimum Requirements: Level 32, Skill Mastery 22 Evaluations: Haven't gotten this skill as I don't rely heavily on bow attacks other than to pull enemies. Perhaps for those going the bow-oriented second class this would be a must, but for me it didn't feel necessary. At least not yet. Anyone who has gotten this skill and chance some feedback feel free to comment.  Retreat Needs feedback Minimum Requirements: Level 32, Skill Mastery 22 Evaluations: Personally I did not feel that this skill was worth getting. Essentially, it is Forward Dash that goes in reverse but only half as far with that same nasty long cooldown. I'd rather do a 180 and use forward dash. If anyone got this skill and has something to say about it feel free to post.  Deadly Strike Minimum Requirements: Level 34, Skill Mastery 24 Evaluations: This skill does damage to the enemy as well as reduces their evasion. I didn't get it until I used a skill reset, but now I'm glad that I have. Putting this skill at the front of my attack sequence I miss far less with my other attacks. The only drawbacks I can speak of are its a little slow animation wise and has a higher MP cost compared to most other skills I use, 35 MP at level 1. Malice writes... its a 1 hit animation, almost instant, good dmg at lvl 2 (critted for 416 with it) altho the debuff may not seem much but later on we might just rely on it againts high evade races like Kruxena.. even in pve... some quests where they send u to a higher lvl elite kill quest the slightest chance where u might not miss could mean everything.  Hacking Minimum Requirements: Level 34, Skill Mastery 24 Evaluations: Skill that does damage and reduced the defense of the enemy it hits. Muku writes... 3 hit (With Dual Sword), decrease the monster def for -47 (Takes 4 more damage) Long recast = Bad nubche writes... Hacking lvl 1 is TERRIBLE! The slow animation makes me lose one entire hit time. Usually after home thrust, I can do 2 hits with skill, like malice and bleeding. Now I can only do ONE with hacking, the dmg is nothing great, and losing one skill worth of dmg (or a pair of normal hit) is no good at all. I have dna lvl 1 and hacking lvl 1, maybe if someone lvls higher and gets hacking 2 which lvl 2 dna = longer duration it would be a little more useful, right now the difference is little to none and the drawback is huge.  Fortitude Minimum Requirements: Level 36, Skill Mastery 26 Evaluations: This skill is a buff that increases the chances of your critical attacks. Also note that this skill does actually have a cast time, unlike any of the other Rogue buffs before it. That was sort of a drag for me, but I guess we can't complain with 35 levels of instant casting all our buffs, so I've adjusted to it. The cast time is 3 seconds. Malice writes... i took fortitude which buffs my crit to a total of 13.58% and the crit chances are minimal... i suppose it will only get better after lvl 45 onwards when u have weapons with better crit base percentage.. oh and btw, fortitude level 2 adds another 1% only and so on. WNxFireWraith writes... Fortitude only raises normal crit, not skill crit. At skill lvl 10, it adds 15% crit (only able to reach lvl 10 as an Assassin).  Raid Needs feedback Minimum Requirements: Level 36, Skill Mastery 26 Evaluations: Skill that can only be used from Stealth that combines the effects of Joint Strike and Paralyzed Nerves into one, both reducing enemy movement speed and attack speed. Anyone that has feedback on using this skill that would like to comment, please post your findings.  Blinding Attack Minimum Requirements: Level 40, Skill Mastery 30 Evaluations: Skill that seems to have the same effect as Joint Strike but does more damage. I have yet to reach the level required to get it but I am interested to see how it pans out. Malice writes... okies i just got this solely for test purposes and it also has a slow animation altho not as slow as breaking Pieces. It does a backward somersault single attack.  Breaking Pieces Minimum Requirements: Level 43, Skill Mastery 33 Evaluations: Damaging skill that hits an area around you. I'd assume in application it is similar to Infection, the lower level AoE skill Rogues get. Malice writes... slow animation, dmg is alright if u spec it high but i can guarantee u one thing that u wont be able to aoe kill a whole lot fast enuf. In groups it does adds a lil bit of dmg but i would only use it to grab adds off healers when the tank missed a taunt.  Curse of Darkness Needs feedback Minimum Requirements: Level 46, Skill Mastery 36 Evaluations: Skill that reduces the range of which enemies can attack and use skills. Not sure as to how useful this skill will be, anyone that has some feedback feel free to post what you've found.  Doppleganger Magic Minimum Requirements: Level 48, Skill Mastery 38 Evaluations: Skill that summons a clone to fight by your side. DetonatorLoki writes... Attacks at standard attack speed (1.7 with swords); Cant be buffed; Cant be healed; Can select its targets; Select it's modes: preemtive attack, defend or manual; Can use while stealthed; Movement needs abit of work; Gives around 50% more dps, definatly worth getting; It has the same HP as me so about 1.5k; he walks really slow - _-; At lvl 1 it lasts 30 mins Malice writes... Defensive mode i have to be like real close to a mob to make it attack(this is prolly a bug); Doppel ganger cannot be put to sleep(need to test with a higher lvl templar) it can be stunned, it can be feared. doppel ganger does 1 dmg(yes one) to those who has shield with decent block rates (pvp) this is actually a shadow hunter skill, it goes all the way to lvl 10 (lvl93 doppel) which is good dmg i assume and by then u be 93 anyway lol... so for assassins we are stuck with lvl 5 doppel. Assassin Skills Assassins can max the following Rogue skills: Breaking Pieces Blinding Attack Fortitude Retreat Stealth Ambush  Brutal Scud Evaluations: DetonatorLoki writes... Scud has never landed and ive tried using it 50+ times. Malice writes... Brutal Scud is indeed borked as Loki has said.. It being the most dmging skill at lvl 10 makes me feel kinda sad that i get ziltch from this one. It needs to be fix ASAP.  Stealing Weapon Evaluations: DetonatorLoki writes... Stealing weapon lands but no idea what its doing because it doesn't have a description  Explosive Hacking Evaluations: Malice writes... animation is not that slow but its not fast either. The dmg part of this skill is working, i didnt really go all out to see if it does any "explosion" or insta kill effect. Forward spin like a cartwheel 3x with its own sound effect... so it goes like whoosh whoosh woosh.. dmg is alright for a lvl 52 skill.. not retarded like what u see when u get Lightning Speed for the 1st time. Neat animation i must say but atlast... im not getting this one.  Spinning Edge Evaluations: Malice writes... Spinning Edge, it has exactly same animation as lighting speed(god i love that animation), MEANING... its safe to say its our fastest yet highest hitting aoe. This skill at lvl 1 does like 200 ish non crit, (my other lvl 5 skills can easily hit for high 200 to mid 300 non crit) and ticks for 8 dmg every 2 sec for 10 secs(stacks with PoM).. the CD is kinda long.. 19 sec iirc but im loving it still... for now. The dmg will only get higher from now on and the dot increases by 1 point at lvl 2. If u feel that u want some kinda aoe skills to help with adds.. or hell..cause havoc in pvp in a wider range, then this is the only skill i would recommend. Shadow Runner Skills Shadow Runners can max the following Rogue skills: Doppelganger Magic Curse of Darkness Raid Hacking Deadly Strike Range Weapon Mastery  Sniping Evaluations: WNxFireWraith writes... A toggle skill, like stealth is, that extends the range of your crossbow attack. Max level for the skill is 4, which adds 8 meters to the skill. The downside to being in this mode is that you cannot run, only walk. I remember on the last patch update they said they added the ability for Rogues to fire in sniping mode while walking backwards.  Explosive Arrow Evaluations: WNxFireWraith writes... Ranged AoE skill. It effects 4 targets, at level 10 the skill does +186 damage and 19 damage every 2 seconds for 20 seconds.  Silent Terror Evaluations: WNxFireWraith writes... An aoe skill that disables magic skills. At level 10, the skill disables magic spells for 45 seconds, it effects 4 targets, and has an 85% success rate. That's all the information that has been gathered so far. I will update as more information on skills surfaces. Edited by Noir 6/8/2008 1:51 PM | ||
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 Enverto Posts: 88 | I use malice,excessive,reward and sword aura and most mobs are dead before the combo or shortly after in between auto attacks. The overall dot damage yes it pretty weak and should be a bit higher, but those skills still double an auto attacks damage and I do use them. Reward for pain may seem dumb but at least one point into it is worth it. 13 health off me isn't shit when its 60+ off them.  Edited by wtfmissile 3/3/2008 1:48 AM | ||
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